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发表于 2017-6-15 11:52:28 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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本次很荣幸能够邀请到来自GR社区的3位帝国高手


1.你是如何把握3矿的时机?

   Duelon: in EvE never,in EvA u want to get out some anti air (can be tengus or VX)
then go for thrid,in EvS u delay ur third quite a bit because u build alot of tengus,ah and never go 3 ref start, its suicide
   Duelon:帝国内战开3矿?不存在的。打盟军时如果你能抢到制空那么可以选择开3矿。在打苏联的时候三矿不能太急,因为你要生产天狗骚扰。从我的角度来说,从来不使用三开,因为太作死了。
   Jeromo: all maps - different timings , but main points are the same >> EvE - if you control air with your tengues and have like 3-5 more tengues then your opponent you can go t2 or third ref (  in case if you haven t got opportunity to kill opponent right now).   AvE - The main aim - have the same quality of refs as your Allies opponent ( or you will lose). If you see your opponent goes 3rd 4th 5th  ref - you need do the same thing ( not always works, but long games help). SvE - I love go fast 3 ref start sometimes... but usually you need start attack wiht your 3-5 tengues and make some dammage - if all ok and you killed 1(2) harv you can go 3rd ref - if your opponent beat you then.. mb go barraks instead of 3rd ref
  Jeromo:所有的地图的3矿时机不同,但是需要注意的重点差不多。帝国内战方面:开局如果你的夺下制空并且你的天狗数量比对手多3-5个,你可以升级T2或者建造三矿(特别是在当你没有把握秒杀对手的情况下)。应对盟军的时候,主要目的就是保持你的矿数量与你的对手的矿数量一致。如果你看到你的对手建造3矿,4矿,5矿,你只需要做相同的事情。虽然不总是有效果,但在大多情况下是可行的的。应对苏联的时候。有时我喜欢快速的建造3矿,但是通常情况下你需要让你的3-5个天狗去骚扰对手并且给予你的对手一些伤害。如果你能打掉对面1-2个矿车,你可以开3矿。如果你的对手进攻你,必须取消3矿,靠兵站生产小兵来防御对手的进攻。
  AA:This is one of the most important aspects of playing empire as this decision can make or break the game for you. The key to successfully expanding as an empire player is doing so when you’re sure that no pressure will come your way for the next 15-20 seconds. You can do this by using your own units to defend yourself during this time, or even by using them to harass your opponent and keep them distracted while you build the refinery core.
Also, always make sure that the refinery core has a clear path to it’s destination. They are pretty defenseless in core mode and you don’t want to be throwing 2500 credits away.
  AA:对于如何玩帝国来说是很重要的一个方面,因为这个决定可以决定你的成败。成功扩张的前提是你能保证接下来的15秒-20秒的时间内不会遭到任何骚扰或进攻。在这段时间你可以利用自己的单位来防御,甚至利用这些单位进行骚扰,让你的对手在你开3矿的时候分心。
同时确保的你的矿场核心在通往的目的地的路上是安全的,矿场在核心模式的时候是毫无防御能力的,你可不能浪费这2500$
2.帝国内战只有天狗对拼吗?你一般通过什么单位来打破局面?

  DD: yeah only tengus, when u have more tengus then ur opponent,u can tech up and get 1-2 vx,when ur opponent has more tengu then u,u can tech up and get tsunami,and hope he doesnt have eyes :D
  是的,只有天狗,当你的天狗比你的对手多的时候,你可以升级t2生产1-2个VX,当你的天狗少于对手时,你可以升科技生产海啸坦克,并祈祷你的对手是个盲人 :D
  Jeromo: EvE tengu spam only on some most popular maps like ii or fi - usually its more interesting games with other kind of utits - but if we are talking about other tactics - you can go fast tb drop or if you lose tengu wars at the beginning - trying fast t2 ( usually if you lost air-tengu-war you can send all your recent tengus on Main of your opponent and take his attention for some time -- doing t2 at the same). Frankly speaking there always tengu wars and no other units at EvE :(
  无脑天狗的情况只在一些受到欢迎的地图,比如II或者FI,通常更多的单位可以使游戏更加有趣。但是我们谈论其他战术时,你可以尝试迅雷载具配合坦克杀手,如果你在拼天狗中处于劣势,试着快速升级T2科技,(通常你失去了天狗的制空权,你可以将你所有的天狗去骚扰你的对手来影响你对手的注意力,同时你需要升级t2)。坦白的说,帝国内战真特么的就是无脑拼天狗,其他单位?不存在的。
  AA: A sudden transport filled with tankbusters can really make a difference in breaking traditional tengu spam vs tengu spam. A quick tech up can also catch your opponent off guard if timed right, as they will be busy spamming tengus while you are rolling tsunami tanks into their base.
  迅雷+坦克杀手的组合可以打破传统意义上无脑天狗对战的局势。如果时机正确,快速的升T2科技可以让你的对手措手不及,当他们无脑爆天狗时你可以让你的海啸去他的家里搞事情
3.如何防御速冷冻TR?
  DD:as soon as u see t2 on mcv u go 2x turret, next to ur refs, and u go barracks and spam IW
for turrets.u cant sell mcv before u have warfac, allies go to water = u loose
  一但你看见对面的MCV上有T2的标志(亮两格灯),你需要建造两个VX塔靠近你的矿来防御,同时你需要兵营来大量生产武士来防御炮塔。在没有重工前你不能卖本。如果没重工就卖本的话,盟军下海你就只能萎了
  Jeromo:Ez - you scout > trying to make factory as fast as you can + 1 barrack >>> build walls around factory and make few tbs or eWarriors >>> sold main base and trying engi his main >>> tengu spam
  这很简单,你需要侦察,试图让你的重工尽可能的快一些,你可以补一个兵站,建造围墙围绕你的重工,生产一些坦克杀手和帝国武士。卖掉你的基地,尝试用工程师占领对方的基地,接着用卖本的经济爆发来爆天狗
  AA:What I have learned over the years is the best way to counter this is forgetting about spamming infantry and sell off what dojos you have (this should still leave you with 7 or 8 imperial warriors at least from early game). Immediately get the advanced rockets protocal and get your mecha bay to tier 2 immediately and spam VXs. While doing this, build a second generator (if you have not already) and also build a turret. Be sure to place the turret where it can protect your refinery, the front of your mecha bay, and one of your power plants, with the refinery being the highest priority. Even if your opponent manages to snipe the turret, it will draw fire which will allow your first few VXs to come out of the mecha bay clean.
Once you have about 3 VXs, start building tsunami tanks. Use those and what infantry you have to repel the push by targeting the MCV. Once the MCV dies, it’s all over for the allied pusher.
  玩了这么久我觉得最好的方法就是忘掉无脑爆步兵,然后卖掉你所有的道场,开局大概会剩下7-8个帝国武士,立即升级导弹协议,让你的重工升级到T2,然后爆VX,同时补一个电厂(如果你没有的话),同时出一个VX防御塔,一定要把你的炮塔建造在可以保护矿场的地方,或者重工的前面,电厂的旁边,当然矿场是最优先考虑的。即使你的对手试图攻击你的炮塔,他也会开火直到你的VX可以安全的出来。一旦你有了大约3个VX,开始生产海啸坦克。使用这些和你仅用的步兵来击退对方的MCV,一旦盟军的MCV狗带了,盟军的苟比计划也就狗带了。
4.你认为处理双刃牛蛙的最佳方式是什么?
  DD:mass tengu with pdd,vx useless
  天狗配合套子协议,VX没什么卵用。
  Jeromo: i think you just must not give your opponent go to tws+bfs,of you see air you need start damage,or be ready to drops
  我认为你不能给你对手机会来生产双刃牛蛙,当你看到机场的时候,你就要准备一波干死对面了,或者做好让单位降落的准备
  AA:  Most empire players say tengus with point defense drones is the best defense, but I personally prefer just placing turrets at each of my refineries. You also want to have some VXs handy, but don’t want to end up relying on JUST the VXs for protection as good Soviet twin-froggers will exploit the speed advantage of the twinblades and bullfrogs.
These turrets won’t finish the task of killing of the twinfrog itself, but it will kep the harassments off long enough for you to mass enough units to push the Soviets player’s base and finish them off.
  许多帝国玩家都觉得带套天狗是最好的应对方式,但是我个人更喜欢建造炮塔放在每个矿场的旁边,当然你会觉得用VX同样方便,但别指望只靠VX来保护矿,当你的对手是厉害的苏联时,他们会利用双刃牛蛙高机动的优势来调戏你。炮塔虽然不能完全的干死双刃牛蛙,但是他能很好的拖延双刃牛蛙骚扰的时机,使你有足够的时间来一波A爆苏联
5.对帝国玩家的一些建议
  DD: try to end game quick,u have no chance in late game
  尝试快速地结束游戏,在后期你就没机会了
  Jeromo: If you really want to play Empire - try to make as more damedge to sov as you can >> always win tengu wars against other Empire >> and surrender when you see Al on ii
  如果你真的很喜欢玩帝国,尽一切你能做的来给予苏联更多的伤害。帝国内战:一定要拼赢天狗。对盟军(别打小图)
  AA: Just because empire has cheap units doesn’t mean it’s the easiest to play. Empire has the weakest units of the 3 factions and must use their units in numbers in order to be effective. A lot of empire players fall into the trap of throwing units away which ends up costing them games. Make use of every units and take full advantage of transform abilities that allow you to evacuate damaged units and repair them for later battles. Also, one of empire’s most effective and under-utilized assets is their tier 3 units. If you want to be a successful empire player, try incorporating tier 3 units into your playstyle J
  帝国的单位比较便宜但不代表它们是最简单的。帝国的单位是三个阵营中最弱的,所以必须有数量才能起到很好的效果。很多玩家都喜欢送兵,最终使他们SB了。利用好每一个单位和他们的变换技能,使你能及时的撤回你受损的单位来进行修理并为之后的战斗做准备。此外,帝国最有效和最冷门的单位就是帝国的T3单位。如果你想成为一个牛逼的帝国玩家,试着将T3单位的试用融入你的战术





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这是一种因为太作死了
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allies go to water = u loose

盟军下海你就只能萎了

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Once the MCV dies, it’s all over for the allied pusher.

一旦盟军的MCV狗带了,盟军的苟比计划也就狗带了。

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