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发表于 2016-9-17 01:31:29 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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本次很荣幸邀请到了来自挪威的顶尖盟军玩家c9q9md,很高兴可以邀请到他来为盟军新手玩家带来一些经验与建议。
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1.关于速机场
Q:速机场的优点是什么?
AI think Fast AF is very good for catching opponents off guard. Alot of people don't really expect it, and therefore it can be hard to counter. It is also a very safe way to get an engineer kill on certain maps such as cabana or Fire Island.
(速机场可以很好的打对手一个措手不及。很多人无法预料到这个开局,因此很难去针对。这也是为什么这个战术可以很安全的击杀工程师在火山岛或者卡巴纳这些地图上)
Q:当盟军内战速机场时,对手选择两兵营冲基地,该如何应对?
AIt really depends on how early I spot it, and if the player is producing javelins to stop my planes or PKs to rush my base. If he tries to rush my base with just PKs, I will sell my AF and place my vindicator in a corner of the map so it does not die. In doing so, I only really lose 300$ in value as I get 500 back from selling the AF + a 200$ PK. I either go naval yard to make riptides or go 2x barracks myself if i have time for that.
If he spams javelins, I will keep bombing them
until he gets too many javelins
in which i transition into dual rax spam to easily get the PK advantage
I would like to note though that dual rax is very strong vs fast AF and the guy doing 2rax opener will in most cases have a huge advantage
(这将取决于我如何快速的侦察到对手的战术。如果对面生产大量步兵我将选择停止建造飞机。如果对手试图冲基地。我将卖掉机场,使维护者轰炸机躲在角落里,这可以保护维护者轰炸机不死亡。这样做我只会损失300元(卖机场500+一个维和步兵200。机场造价1000)我可以选择转型船厂生产激流ACV,如果有时间我会选择转型两兵营生产大量的步兵来对抗。
如果对面继续生产标枪兵,我将继续轰炸步兵,直到对手生产出大量的标枪兵。这个时间内我可以转型2兵营并生产大量的维和步兵并取得单位上的优势。
我想需要注意的两兵营开局虽然是个很好的战术vs速机场,但大多情况下我可以取得优势。)
Q:速机场这个战术是否可以用来对付帝国?
AAF vs empire depends on the player I am facing. Playing someone who relies heavily on infantry can be hard. focus on bombing the TBs if he is making them. Always make sure to place your powerplants at sea or walled in
same goes for AF
always wall in your AF when doing fast AF vs empire
if you can bomb the mechabay core before it deploys
you will deal about 70% damage to it with 2 planes
the second bombing run should ensure the kill, unless he is fast and invests in engineer repair, which will still cost 750
(速机场对付帝国取决于我的对手,如果对手很依赖步兵那么这个战术将会很困难。专心使用维护者炸轰炸对面的坦克杀手,另外要确保你的建筑在海上或者用围墙保护起来。如果你可以在帝国展开机甲工厂直接轰炸到机甲工厂核心,那么可以给予70%的伤害。第二轮的轰炸可以确保炸掉机甲工厂,除非他快速补出工程师修理,但是这仍然需要花费750
2.如何处理VX配合天狗
That is a very broad question. It depends on what stage the game is in. The thing about that question is not "how do you stop it", but more "how do you prevent it" in the first place. As allies you should try to prevent empire from massing up units on you in the first place. Before the empire is tier 2, you should be constantly trying to keep his tengu count low by getting air dominance. The first 5-7 minutes of the game is key as this is before he gets his defense drones up. This is where allies should utilize their offensive capabilities. if you manage to keep his tengu count low enough, he should have a very hard time transitioning into vx spam. If its mid-late game and he does this, a warfactory with IFVs + a few guardians and some cryos will beat a vx/tengu combo most of the time. Also always keep your apollos alive, as a general tip.
(这是个很广泛的问题。这取决于游戏的时间段。关于这个问题不是“如何去阻止”而应该将“如何防止”放在第一位。作为一个盟军玩家,你应该尽量防止帝国单位在第一时间成型。当帝国拥有T2科技之前你应该不断压制天狗不让对面成型。比赛的前5-7分钟是关键,因为这之前帝国并没法升级点防御无人机这个协议。这就是为什么盟军要利用他们的进攻能力。如果你设法将对手的天狗保持在足够低的数量,那么对手将很难转型成大量的VX天狗。如果在中后期对手这么做。你需要装甲工厂生产多功能步兵车(IFV)和守护者坦克和一些冷冻直升机基本可以击败VX配合天狗的组合。另外让你的阿波罗生存下来,升到更高的等级。)
3.如何对付冷冻间谍IFV
Having cryos yourself usually works out great.AD + infantry is also very good.as spy ifvs dont damage them.he can shrink the AD, but the shield is still pretty large.if you have 2-3 ADs.and alot of infantry.he will have a really hard time.If he invests heavily in spy-ifv.making that combo of units is very expensive
first off, 5 IFVs is 4000
Tech upgrade 1500
cryos is 4800
5 spies is 5K
You could make a proton collider by that time
(你自己用冷冻防御通常效果很好。当然突袭驱逐舰配合步兵效果也很好。因为间谍IFV将无法伤害到他们,对手可以用冷冻直升机缩小突袭驱逐舰,但是黑洞装甲仍然相当大。如果你有2-3个突袭驱逐舰和很多步兵,如果对手在间谍多功能步兵车上花大量资金,那么他将会陷入困境。使用组合单位是非常昂贵的。5个多功能步兵车是4000,升级科技需要1500.3个冷冻直升机是48005个间谍是5000。你可以在这个时间内建造一个质子对撞机。)
4.盟军内战如何把握T3的时机
For me going t3 in AvAs is very rare. Unless I am playing YuiYui, Lictor or someone else really defensive, I usually just stick to t1 and spam with infantry. I only really use my own t3 to get EMP from aircraft-carriers which can take out athena cannons really cost effectively.
(对于我来说盟军内战使用T3是非常罕见的。除非对手是YuiYui(荷兰玩家,官网顶尖盟军选手)或者Lictor(法国玩家,官网顶级盟军选手)或者其他玩家的防守战术。我通常使用T1科技单位和大量的步兵。我只升级T3并生产航空母舰,航空母舰的技能EMP断电飞弹对付雅典娜炮真的很有效
5.对于盟军新手的建议
Dont get demotivated from losing
Allies can be a hard faction to become really good with
the best real advice I can give is that alot of new players seem to lose their apollos alot in AvE settups
dont lose your appollos and practice microing with them
same goes for cryocopters and vindicators
If you learn to micro your air units correctly, it should be alot easier to progress learning
(不要因为失败而失去动力,盟军是一个很难玩好的阵营。我可以给的最好的建议就是很多新手在对阵帝国的时候容易失去阿波罗。练习阿波罗的微操,不要经常失去阿波罗。
这个建议同样适用与维护者轰炸机和冷冻直升机。
如果你正确的学会空军的微操,那么应该会很容易进步。
后记
本来暑假就打算邀请c9来做一次教学,不过当时他在旅游。由于学业的关系也是拖到了中秋假期,总算是搞出来了。
本人高三狗,翻译水平有限,希望大家不要介意
希望能给广大盟军玩家带来帮助


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发表于 2016-9-17 01:37:51 | 显示全部楼层
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良心作品 顶顶顶
B站空间:http://space.bilibili.com/22923776/#!/
B站直播间:http://live.bilibili.com/391092

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英语是挪威的必修语言,屁克翻译的这个可见鸟语水平还是很好的
这个贴可以说超级有帮助啦
以后可以加入一些互动,征集国内玩家的问题,再去采访国外高手
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c9回答的很棒,皮卡英语很棒,赞赞赞!
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NSS B站教学视频 http://space.bilibili.com/26694869
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居然是首发......
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